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This is a high risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. The first contact was a knock on the door on a Saturday when I was sitting in my dorm room early afternoon.

I was doing, you know, I was studying and there was some knock on the door, which I knew immediately that had to be a stranger because another student, when they knocked, they would come right in.

It was 1970 and Jack Barski was studying chemistry at the University of

Vienna in East Germany but at the time his name was Albert Dietrich.

So I said, come on in and in came a short individual with a cast on his left arm and he introduced himself as the as a representative of a local

optics company which is actually was one of the few companies in East Germany that made stuff that could sell in the West.

It was high precision optics.

And he then said, you know, I just want to talk with you about your plans after you graduate.

And that was like really dumb.

You should have known that in those days companies did not recruit.

There was no sense in speaking to me. So I immediately figured out

he's probably his German secret police and let's see what's you know how he's going to how this is going to evolve.

Jack says that they made some small talk about his plans to be a professor after he graduated.

And then, suddenly the man asked if Jack could ever imagine himself

working for the government. So we had some communication between the lines and

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