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🗓️ 19 March 2024
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Charlotte Philby interviews Andrew Lycett, the biographer of Ian Fleming, about the other real life spies that inspired his most famous character: James Bond - including the flamboyant Biffy Dunderdale, the urbane Sir Peter Smithers and even Ian Fleming’s own escapades. But who is the most James Bond of all?
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0:00.0 | Wonderry Plus subscribers can binge full seasons of the Spy Who early and add free on Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app. |
0:15.2 | From Wondery, I'm Charlotte Filby and this is The Spy Who. |
0:19.8 | In this series, The Spy Who inspired 007, we've been telling the story of the Serbian |
0:24.9 | Playboy Triple Agent Dushko Popov, whose antics at the casino Esterile were in origin |
0:31.6 | for the first James Bond novel. |
0:33.6 | And I'm sure many of you have already picked up on the various elements of Dushko Popov's personality |
0:38.3 | and story that have inspired the James Bond character. |
0:42.3 | The globe-trotting adventures, the womanising, the casino royale. |
0:46.3 | But it turns out Dushko Popov wasn't the only inspiration for 007, |
0:50.3 | and I look forward to talking with our guest today about the other spies whose |
0:54.7 | colourful lives and missions, and the best names ever, inspired the novelist Ian Fleming when |
1:00.2 | he created the character of James Bond. And we will try and establish which real-life spy |
1:05.2 | is the most James Bond of all. |
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