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Today in Focus

The spy tech firm managing NHS data

Today in Focus

The Guardian

News, Daily News

4.65.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Palantir, the US spy-tech firm co-founded by the billionaire Peter Thiel, has won a contract to handle NHS data. It’s a deal that has left privacy advocates such as Cori Crider with serious questions. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

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This is the Guardian. Today, the US spy tech firm in charge of managing NHS data. Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground, sun on your face as you slide by, on track to your destination.

0:38.0

Not a care in the world, as you simply lean back.

0:43.0

And before you know it, you're there.

0:46.0

This is how travel should feel.

0:48.0

And on our trains, it does.

0:51.0

Avanti West Coast.

0:53.0

Feel good travel.

0:55.0

I had a personal experience that caused me to feel differently about these issues at the end of last year, which is I had an abortion, I terminated a pregnancy.

1:15.0

Cori Crider is a lawyer and co-founder of the Advocacy Group Fox Club. Like millions of others, she's also a user of the National Health Service.

1:20.0

And on the phone, the very lovely person who was doing the questionnaire said,

1:25.0

may we share a record of your treatment with your GP.

1:30.0

And I kind of paused a minute and I started thinking about it.

1:35.0

And I started thinking about everything I knew about the direction of travel

1:39.0

and about how the argument has been made by people in the center of government that if you

1:44.4

take a couple of pieces of data out of that record then it's not mine anymore

1:48.3

but it's theirs to do with as they see fit and that it could then go on vaguely at some point to some other company for

1:56.8

you know research that I might not support and and this is something I've never

2:00.6

done before by the way I I paused and I said actually no I'd rather that it didn't.

2:10.0

Every week the NHS plays host to millions of similar interactions between patient and doctor.

2:17.0

Many of these discussions are intensely personal.

2:20.0

Some are so sensitive they're not even shared with close friends or family.

2:25.0

It's partly why the issue of who has access to those patients records

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