Hello and welcome to group chat. I am Justin Verrier and joining me, Rob Mahoney, J. Kyle Mann.

Guys, I spent some time digging through your high school tape and I got to say, Rob, your debate club, like, statistics, not as good as you think they are.

You weren't that guy.

I feel deeply wounded in a way I'd never expected to on this podcast.

It's just like an incredibly fucked up thing to say.

You a debate club guy, Rob?

Is that true?

That was my extracurricular activity of choice.

Do I not seem like a natural athlete?

I was going to say, like, can you not tell?

Okay, what's that supposed to mean?

Hey, you're very dialed in, you know? A little pot kettle black there, J.V., but yeah. I'm not dialed in? Is that what we're saying? No, I just, then that becomes the this. Well, you're a sailing Rob for his aesthetic, aesthetics and saying that implies something about what he could be a part of. I've heard that Rob was good at basketball.

I didn't know.

I see.

For me to cast,

I'm not casting stones either.

Before we came on the show,

I was talking extensively about my transition from trumpet to tuba in high school band

and the details of that and,

you know,

how I was kicking ass on tuba.

But so no, man.

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