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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The spirituality of parenting

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Sean Illing talks with the author and self-described mystic David Spangler about parenting as a spiritual enterprise, where the parent communes in a radical way with the spirit of another and expands the limits of the self. They discuss what it means to adopt the "beginner's mindset" in parenting, relating to children as full individuals, and how to cope with obstacles that all parents experience — from misbegotten family dinners, to the perils of getting dressed in the morning. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox Guest: David Spangler, spiritual director, Lorian Institute References: Parent as Mystic, Mystic as Parent by David Spangler (Riverhead; 2000) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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There's gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike. It

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was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was

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all wrapped up, it was so obvious what it was obviously because nothing shaped like a bike

0:45.0

and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so guest. For that was a life changer and I'm

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still sort of big on cycling around my area now, so for that one, change me a little.

0:53.5

Join in every sip with Red Cups now back at Starbucks.

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What can we learn from children?

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I'm Sean Elling and I'm your host for Box Conversations.

1:12.5

I became a parent almost three years ago and I can't quite describe all the ways it has

1:25.7

changed my life. There are good days and bad days. There are moments of sublime joy and

1:33.7

there are moments of total exasperation. But, like many things in life, the way we think

1:41.3

about parenting goes a long way in shaping the experience itself. Having the right attitude,

1:47.8

the right orientation is often the difference between satisfaction and frustration.

1:54.8

A few months ago, a book called Parent As Mystic Mystic As Parent was dropped into my lap

2:01.4

out of nowhere. I had never heard of it before but it came highly recommended. The author's

2:08.3

David Spangler, the new AG thinker, who sort of wrote the book as a side project back in

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