The Spider in the Web: The Hans Globke Story (Pt 2)
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The Times
3.9 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2021
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Today: from Nazi bureaucrat to the architect of modern Germany. In the second episode of this two-part investigation, we look at the power Hans Globke held during the rebuilding of modern Germany and the extent to which he was protected.
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Guests:
-Dr. Gunnar Take, historian at the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich.
-Dr. Tim Naftali, New York University.
-Prof. Klaus-Dietmar Henke, historian.
-Gaby Weber, investigative journalist.
-Susan Neiman, moral philosopher.
-Manfred Lahnstein, former politician for the SDP in Germany.
Host: Oliver Moody, the Berlin correspondent at The Times.
Times' written pieces based on this podcast:
Hans Globke, Hitler’s former henchman, was true architect of modern Germany
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's Manvine here. |
| 0:01.8 | Today's episode is the second in a two-part investigation, |
| 0:05.6 | presented by my colleague Oliver Moody, |
| 0:07.9 | the Times Berlin correspondent. |
| 0:10.4 | In this episode, Oliver looks at the power Hans-Globke held |
| 0:14.8 | during the rebuilding of modern Germany |
| 0:17.4 | and the extent to which he was protected. |
| 0:20.5 | Here's part two of the spider in the web, |
| 0:23.6 | the Hans-Globke story. |
| 0:30.6 | I'm standing outside the Federal Chancere of Germany |
| 0:34.3 | next to the banks of the River Spray in the heart of Berlin. |
| 0:38.6 | It's a funny building. |
| 0:40.6 | A sprawling post-modern palace, |
| 0:42.7 | the largest government nerve center in the world, |
| 0:44.8 | festooned with living greenery. |
| 0:47.7 | Berliners have nicknamed it the Elephant's Washing Machine. |
| 0:51.8 | The huge pains of glass in its frontage |
| 0:54.0 | seem to promise transparency, |
| 0:56.7 | but the blank concrete walls around them |
| 0:59.6 | hint at locked doors and secrets and opacity |
| 1:03.8 | behind the openness and behind those walls |
| 1:08.5 | at the heart of the German government hangs a portrait |
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