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Hello and welcome to The Spectator podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman. This week, Theresa May is putting the final touches to her Brexit deal. But is this a point to celebrate, or has she left behind an irrevocably toxic legacy? We also take a look at the Democratic Party's new darling, Beto O'Rourke, and last, are British parents too obsessed with their children's

education? First, what is the legacy that Theresa May, the seemingly unassailable Prime Minister,

will leave? She might have overcome another Tory rebellion, but the divisions she leaves

within the Conservative Party will be felt for many years to come.

James Forsyth argues in this week's cover piece that she has exacerbated divisions between Scottish

Tories and others, between Remainers and Brexiteers, and what's more, she has not taken back sovereignty

in her Brexit deal, ensuring that Europe will continue to dominate the Tories.

James joins me now together with Lord Michael Heseltine, former Deputy Prime Minister.

So James, you say in your piece that May's legacy is going to be toxic in more than one way.

What do you see as being the three problems that she's going to leave?

Well, I think the first one is that the withdrawal agreement essentially

requires the UK to make a choice between sovereignty and the union. If the UK chooses to take

more control over its own rules and regulations, it will give teeth to a regulatory border in the

Irish C, putting Northern Ireland into a very different place. And so essentially,

what the withdrawal agreement will do is, under the backstop, there'll be this constant tension

in the Tory party between do you want more sovereignty for Great Britain, or do you value the

union more so you're prepared to carry on following more EU rules and regulations to keep the

whole of the UK under the same economic system broadly.

I think the second problem is that Theresa May hasn't been straight with people, particularly our own party.

There is an argument that after the general election result, it was obvious that Brexit was going to be very different from what she had initially said it would be.

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