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13 Minutes Presents: The Space Shuttle

The Space Shuttle: 1. The spaceplane

13 Minutes Presents: The Space Shuttle

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

9.54.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Can Nasa build the most complex flying machine in space history? The plan is to create a permanent human presence in space.

It’s Spring 1969 - two months before the launch of Apollo 11 – the first US mission to land humans on the moon. But meanwhile, hidden away from public view, Nasa is thinking the unthinkable.

Maverick engineer Dr Max Faget is already a legend within Nasa. He’s fascinated by what could be next for human spaceflight. In a backroom, of Building 36 at Johnson Space Center, he invites a handful of engineers to a meeting. One of them is Ivy Hooks, a mathematician and engineer. And one of the first female engineers at Nasa.

Some scenes in this series use recreated sound effects.

13 Minutes Presents: The Space Shuttle is a BBC Audio Science Unit production for BBC World Service.

Hosted by space scientist Maggie Aderin-Pocock.

Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg, and produced by Russell Emanuel, for Bleeding Fingers Music.

Archive: Richard Nixon launches Nasa’s space shuttle programme, CBS News, 1972 Mission audio and oral histories, Nasa History Office

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Mariana Spring, the BBC's social media investigations correspondent.

0:06.0

In my podcast, I've been investigating what happened to the daughter of a conspiracy theorist who died having rejected chemotherapy.

0:13.0

It would mean the world to me if I could make it that she wasn't just another in the long line of people that die in this way.

0:19.0

How does this reflect the rise of health conspiracy theories on social media and beyond?

0:24.8

The new series of Mariana in Conspiracy Land, listen on BBC Sounds.

0:30.1

Episodes of 30 Minutes Presents the Space Shuttle are released weekly, wherever you get your BBC

0:35.8

podcasts.

0:37.2

But if you're in the UK, you can listen to the full season

0:40.8

right now, first on BBC Sounds. Some scenes in this series use recreated sound effects.

0:59.9

This is shuttle launch control at T-minus 9 minutes, 30 seconds and counting. It's the 12th of April 1981.

1:04.0

Door.

1:05.2

Just a few seconds away now from our final build-in hold at the T-minus nine-minute point in our countdown.

1:12.8

A machine, as tall as a 14-floor apartment block, stands bathed in beams of brilliant white light.

1:21.4

It is dramatic if you go out before sunrise. It kind of looks unreal. It really does.

1:28.3

It's a tower filled with nearly 2,000 tons of solid and liquid fuel.

1:36.3

We are approximately 26 seconds away from picking up the countdown at the T-minus nine minute point.

1:44.3

Nine minutes remaining between now and 7 a.m.

1:47.6

When we expect to have a lift off of America's first space shuttle.

1:54.4

Strapped into this machine are two men.

1:58.1

One is a rookie, Bob Crippen.

2:00.7

I grew up wanting to fly.

2:02.9

Focused and quick-witted.

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