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The Sound of Worms Turning

Slate Books

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3.8 • 546 Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Mark Joseph Stern for a romp through the jurisprudential headlines. It’s been a week. Highlights include: Donald Trump’s legal woes in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents investigation, and at the hands of New York Attorney General Letitia James’ civil suit. 

Then, we’re live at Politics and Prose in Washington DC, with a conversation between Dahlia Lithwick and Professor Michele Goodwin about women, the law and the rule of law. They discuss Dahlia’s new book Lady Justice: Women, the Law and the Battle to Save America, the day Dahlia decided to stop covering the Supreme Court from the inside, what the law can do for justice, and what it can’t.

Lady Justice is also available as an audiobook, and Amicus listeners can get a 25% discount by entering the code “AMICUS” at checkout. :https://books.supportingcast.fm/lady-justice

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In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Dahlia and Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern also delve into retired Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer’s comments about Dobbs and the court’s legitimacy, and the death penalty decision that came down Thursday and what it tells us about Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s jurisprudence. 

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0:00.0

The way it works in real court rather than in Judge Eileen Cannon's kind of kangaroo court,

0:11.3

is that you have to put forth evidence to support your claims, and if you don't, I won't believe them.

0:22.3

Part of the reason I wrote this book is that I think we all have to do that work.

0:26.8

It is not for lawsuits.

0:28.7

It is not just for judges.

0:31.2

It is for every single one of us.

0:32.7

And I hate to say this, but I think it's the work of the rest of our lives.

0:38.2

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus.

0:40.5

This is a podcast about the courts, the law, the rule of law, the Supreme Court, justice itself.

0:46.7

I am Dahlia Lithwick.

0:47.9

I write about those things for Slate.

0:50.3

And this week, I also sign books.

0:53.0

I signed many, many books, which is fun and totally thrilling.

0:58.0

And hello Florida and hello Washington, D.C. and New York City and Charlottesville.

1:02.2

But also my hand is hurting and my voice is spraying.

1:06.3

But my vocal cords and carpal tunnel for Lady Justice, my new book, is really a very minor matter in the face of so very, very much legal news that has dropped this week.

1:18.5

Much of it positive.

1:20.4

So I have called upon my brilliant sidekick, Slate's very own, Mark Joseph Stern, to help catch us up with all things cake and eating cake too and all frustrated, retired Supreme Court justices spilling some tea.

1:38.7

And also the law of declassifying things with your mind, Slate Plus members are going to have access to an extended version of this conversation

1:48.5

with Mark.

1:49.2

If you are not a Slate Plus member and you don't want to miss out on what some people are

1:55.1

saying is the very best part of amicus.

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