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Hello listeners and future callers.

This is Dinner SOS, the show where we help you save dinner or whatever you're cooking.

I'm Chris Morocco, Food Director of Bon Appetit and Epicurious.

And this week we're getting a little bit cheesy.

Mac and Cheesy, that is.

I have made it so many times, so many different recipes.

That's Blake, our caller this week, and he just can't seem to master his mac and cheese game.

Taste like cardboard, taste like flour.

I'll use fancier cheeses to make it a little more flavorful.

And I'll taste it and I'm like, I feel like I'm chewing on a cardboard box.

Oh, this is amazing.

This is turned into the best day ever.

First of all, it takes a lot to go on any kind of show and be like, I'm not making good mac and cheese.

You know, and just admit that there's a problem in the first place.

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