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The Soul of Wealth with Daniel Crosby

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Today we talk The Soul of Wealth with Daniel Crosby, a behavior finance expert. Daniel shares his transition from clinical psychology to Wall Street due to burnout and his realization that finance is deeply rooted in human behavior. Highlighting the PERMA model from positive psychology, he emphasizes that true well-being requires balancing positive experiences, meaningful work, relationships, purpose, and personal growth—rather than just financial success. Daniel discussed how there has been a shift financial behavior, with younger generations prioritizing values-driven investing over pure profit. Join us as we discuss how to have a more fulfilling financial life! Today we discuss... 

  • Daniel Crosby shares his background as a clinical psychologist who transitioned into behavioral finance.
  • Behavioral finance is central to investing, shaping individual and institutional decisions.
  • How people often optimize for material success (positive experiences) at the expense of deeper fulfillment.
  • The PERMA model, a framework for well-being that balances pleasure, engagement, relationships, meaning, and achievement.
  • How Wall Street culture can lead to extreme work habits, burnout, and misplaced priorities.
  • Crosby emphasizes the importance of integrating life balance early, rather than delaying happiness for financial success.
  • The role of money in social change, noting that financial tools have historically driven major civil rights movements.
  • The Montgomery Bus Boycott, sparked by Rosa Parks, demonstrated the power of financial pressure in the civil rights movement.
  • Younger generations increasingly recognize that spending money is a form of voting for the world they want to live in.
  • Gen X is often overlooked politically, partly because they tend to be cynical and disengaged from politics.
  • Financial decisions can be more powerful than political votes, as they influence the economy and corporate behavior daily.
  • Consumer spending decisions significantly impact businesses and shape the economy more directly than stock market trades.
  • Retirees often conflate net worth with self-worth, making it hard to enjoy their savings.
  • The balance between saving for the future and enjoying the present is a major financial conflict in relationships.
  • People tend to judge others based on their spending habits, viewing savers as dull and spenders as reckless.
  • Life offers no guarantees, so financial strategies should include both prudent saving and meaningful spending.
  • Overcoming personal financial biases requires studying market history and maintaining a long-term perspective.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcasts listeners. Welcome to this week's show. My name is Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host.

0:16.0

So today I'm here with Daniel Crosby. How you know you, Daniel?

0:20.0

Kirk, I'm good, man. Happy

0:21.3

holidays. Well, glad to have you on your show on the show. I know you got a new book out, which is great.

0:27.7

But for those listeners who are not familiar with you and can't imagine there are many, but tell us a little bit about your background.

0:33.8

Yeah, so I am a behavioral finance expert. I'm the chief behavioral officer at Orion Advisor Solutions. And I think the cool thing about me is that I am a clinical psychologist by education. So I went to school to be a shrink, sold my soul to Wall Street shortly after after graduating with my PhD and have spent my career just thinking, studying,

0:56.6

writing about the psychology of money.

0:58.7

Nice.

0:59.1

Well, congratulations for selling your soul.

1:01.9

Ever going to work to Wall Street?

1:03.3

It's worked out.

1:04.3

It's great.

1:05.4

Probably better than the alternative, right?

1:07.1

Getting into medicine and practice.

1:09.9

But you can help a lot more people, which is great.

1:12.4

So tell us about that. What caused that pivot? Why go into Wall Street with that kind of background?

1:17.3

Burnout, you know, burnout is the simple answer. I was 23 years old when I began my career as a clinician,

1:24.5

which I think you and I can both agree is an age where you have it all

1:29.1

figured out and you should definitely be telling people how to live their lives. And so,

1:34.2

you know, quickly just started taking work home with me, you know, 40 to 50 hours a week of

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