This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity. My guest this week is Justin Hopkins. I know Justin via Yoshino and the wonderful Artist Decoded podcast. I know Justin because he is

Yoshino's business partner in No Wave, NOH slash Wave. And they're an art collective based in

LA and downtown L.A. Justin is friends with a lot of cool people,

is an incredibly talented artist in his own right, but also curates and puts on events that are

really, really cool. Granted, I've only been to one, and it's the one that I, you know, threw

with him, but how much could I have been involved in the production outside of, you know, through with him. But how much could I have been involved in the

production outside of, you know, conceptualizing it, the actual work, making it, you know,

beautiful in a physical space programming wise? Like I've, I've co-produced and been production

assistant many moons ago for a lot of different people.

And it was awesome what Justin did.

And more importantly, his art and the vibe that he curated, I think is probably the most stunning accomplishment.

All right.

So I'm saying Justin's praises here.

But truthfully, someone that I haven't known for very long, but we've communicated and

spoke it on the phone, you know, and he's just a, he's a cool dude. So this conversation is long,

so I hope you enjoyed that. I hope you're ready for a long one. I'll make up for last weeks

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