The Sorry State Of Arguing

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.5 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

On Wednesday, October 26th, we will be launching a new podcast called Not Even Mad, featuring Gist host Mike Pesca (heard of him?), Wired contributor and self-proclaimed liberal Virginia Heffernan, and author of the bestselling Secret City: The Hidden History of Gay Washington, Jamie Kirchick, who holds many conservative positions on the issues. So, as a preview of the new podcast, we've invited Virginia and Jamie on The Gist to discuss the brokenness of our current political discourse, and also to debate how the Democrats lost the post-Dobbs polling momentum. Is it really just about gas prices? Also, an analysis of "talking your book," or as Mike describes it "a prediction based on predilection." Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	There is a bit of explicit content in the podcast you're about to hear.
0:08.7	It's Monday, October 24th, 2022 from Peach Fish Productions. It's the GIST I'm Mike Pesca.
0:14.7	We know how political discussion and networks serving the opinions of Democrats and Republicans
0:20.0	work. You get analysis inflected by partisanship, but sometimes you get pure partisanship
0:26.1	masquerading as analysis. It happens, both sides do it all the sides do it. Non-political
0:33.2	journalism does it too. In financial journalism, it's called talking your book CNBC might have
0:39.2	on a traitor. He would disclose his position, ideally. I think Apple's going to go up to 200
0:44.2	by June and he might give you his reasons why. This is called talking your book, talking up the
0:49.8	position you have. And if you disclose it, the audience is better off. And something like that goes
0:55.2	on with elections when they hire a Democrat, when they hire a Republican, oftentimes, well, what
1:00.0	you ideally want is their analysis, uninflected by the fact that they have a particular political
1:05.5	leaning, but you don't often get that. So I meet the press Democratic Pulster Cornell
1:10.2	Belcher was asked about all the recent data showing an undeniable trend away from the Democrats
1:16.0	in the midterms. His insight, he denied it. Look, I think broadly, a lot of you all wrong. He
1:21.5	backed it up by saying that sentiment had changed. The narrative had changed. Over on CNN,
1:27.5	current contributor there and former director of communications for the Democratic National Committee,
1:32.3	Karen Finney was asked about her take on poll data that host Jake Tapper laid out was clearly
1:39.0	trending towards Republicans. We know Karen Finney. Yes. That these polls historically undercount
1:45.3	Republicans generally Democrats only feel comfortable going into election day if they're up
1:49.4	six to eight points on the generic. And here you are down three to five on the generic. Can't
1:55.7	be feeling good. I am feeling good. I am feeling good. And then she proceeded to talk her book,
2:02.5	which maybe some people may have gotten something out of these people are on TV. Maybe they're
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