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Dan, let's just talk about this off season here.

You know, we're coming off a COVID year in college football. We got through it.

A lot of people didn't think we would. So my thinking from an optimistic standpoint is the

worst is behind us. God willing, 2020 is going to be more normal. And we'll be back to where

we were. How do you feel?

I feel optimistic, but I also feel like there's a lot of blanks that we're still yet to fill in.

We don't fully know the experience of the coaches and players and administrators and staff members involved to make 2020 happen. And so we know that we had games,

which is a positive thing. We know we had a season of some kind that was variable across different major conferences and that, you know, obviously FCS teams and programs didn't play in the fall

and was that some of them starting up right around now and shortly. So it's all

still, it all still feels very haphazard to me. But I think I'm like everybody else in that I'm hopeful,

I'm optimistic that we can get, I don't know if we can get back to normal because there's,

there's never going back in life. Life is all about change, but it's create a new normal that

we can all be happy with. So that's where my brain is at right now. All right. Well, I like that.

I like that very much there, Dan. So as we're going through the offseason here, spring practice

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