Welcome to In Conversation, the regular podcast of InCompass. Go to InCampus.combe.com for free access to all our

podcast to date. This is Paul Adamson and I'm in conversation with Ranga Yogeshva. Ranga is a physicist and science journalist,

and this conversation was recorded at a recent conference

on the use of 5G technology in society in front of a live audience.

Now, if you live in Germany or in the German-speaking world,

Ranga needs no introduction whatsoever.

The programme says rather modestly, in my view over modestly,

he's a physicist and a science journalist. But as you know, those you know him well in his career,

he's much, much more than that. He's a guy who understands science and technology much more than most of us,

certainly, but combined with that, which is a kind of rare combination, he knows how to communicate it to wider less well-informed audiences and if you see any of these documentaries

many which are available on YouTube in many different languages then you know exactly what I'm what I'm talking about so it's a great pleasure to have you here Anger and I'm really looking forward to this interview we have about half an hour

if I'm not to if I'm feeling generous I will share some of the time with the audience.

If not, I will monopolize you for the next half an hour.

This whole day, as you know, is about obviously how 5G, how much of a reality 5G is and its

applications.

And we just heard two very inspiring presentations from these two wonderful dudes on stage

about how they're using 5G technology

and related technologies for the benefit of their causes.

But let's step back a bit.

I'm still slightly confused.

Is the industry in particular guilty of a bit of hubris?

They use phrases like game changer and how much of a game changer in your view is 5G from a pretty

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