Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home with me Alan Tolhurst.

This week, we're looking at another of those naughty, seemingly intractable issues sat on Labour's

intro where they entered government last year, namely social care.

Successive administrations have failed to grasp the nettle and deal with the rising

costs of a sector that has ballooned in size to deal with our ageing population. And from Andrew Dillnott's

infamous review sat growing dusty in a drawer to Theresa May's election losing dementia tax, Boris Johnson's

elusive plan for social care and the aborted health and social care levy, previous governments have struggled

to find a funding or political wherewithal for long-term solution to how we look after those who need it.

So to discuss how we got here, what Kirstarman's government is doing to take on the care crisis,

where the latest review is another exercise kicking the can down the road, and what impact this week's

immigration white paper will have

on the sector's massive vacancy issues, I'm delighted to be joined by on the panel by Paulette

Hamilton, Labour MP, and the acting chair of the Health and Social Care Committee, as well as Joe

Robertson, Tory MP for the Isle of White, who also sits on the select committee. Alongside them,

Alistair Alon, Policy Fellow in Social Care at the Health Foundation, and Will Dalton, National Officer for Care at the G Committee. Alongside them are Lucinda Allen, Policy Fellow in Social Care at the Health

Foundation, and Will Dalton, National Officer for Care at the GMB Union. And later on in the

episode, we'll also hear from Joe Jeremy from the Fabian Society about their proposals for dealing

with pay and recruitment. But starting with my panel and Lucinda, can you just talk us through what we mean when we say there's a crisis in the care sector?

What are the kind of the major issues currently facing the sector?

Yeah. So right now there are a range of issues facing the care sector.

We're seeing limited state support, people going without the care that they need,

really poor staff pay and conditions,

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