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Freethought Radio

The Sober Truth

Freethought Radio

Freedom From Religion Foundation

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6578 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2014

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." After hearing news of  FFRF state/church victories and complaints, we remember the life of physicist, author, and FFRF Honorary Director Victor J. Stenger. Then we talk with Lance Dodes, M.D., about his new book debunking Alcoholics Anonymous: The Sober Truth: Debunking the bad science behind twelve-step programs and the rehab industry.

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0:00.0

This is Free Thought Radio with co-host Stan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Irreverent Views, News, Music, and Interviews.

0:19.0

Imagine there's no heaven.

0:21.6

It's easy if you try.

0:27.6

No hell below us, above us only sky.

0:41.3

Imagine all the people living for today.

0:56.8

Hello, Freethinkers.

0:59.5

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor, and welcome to Freethought Radio.

1:02.3

And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist. This is the September 6th, 2014 edition of Free Thought Radio.

1:08.4

The show is produced at and broadcasts from and streams from the Mike 92.1 in Madison, Wisconsin. We also broadcast in other cities in Monterey and Ithaca, in Grand Rapids, in Columbia, Missouri, in College Station, Texas, and maybe someday if you're listening to the podcast in a station

1:29.3

near you.

1:31.2

Free Thought Radio is the production of FFRF, the Freedom from Religion Foundation, and we're

1:37.6

a national membership organization that works for separation of church and state, and we have

1:42.5

about 21,000, over 21,500 free-thinking

1:46.7

members, atheists, agnostic, skeptics, a few deists, secular humanists, and so on.

1:52.7

Today we're going to talk about Alcoholics Anonymous, or more accurately, the problems with

1:58.7

Alcoholics Anonymous. Our guest will be Dr. Lance Dodis.

2:04.5

He's the author of the new book, The Sober Truth.

2:07.7

That's a great title.

2:08.9

The Sober Truth, debunking the bad science behind 12-step programs and the rehab industry.

2:15.2

Dr. Dodes, who is an addiction therapist, will tell us not only why AAA is a religious organization,

2:23.1

but why it doesn't work.

2:25.6

And we at FFF often deal with governmental agencies such as prisons and medical licensing boards

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