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The Liz Moody Podcast

The Sneaky Ways You Waste Your Life: Optimize Your Time, Do Less, & Have More Fun

The Liz Moody Podcast

Liz Moody

Self-improvement, Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Do you ever feel like you’re behind on the life you’re trying to build, despite constantly being busy? I sat down with Oliver Burkeman, one of the most influential voices on productivity and purpose, to share tools to make more time for the things that genuinely matter so you can do more of what you love to create your dream life. Oliver unpacks the psychology, sharing a radically different productivity approach: embracing your limitations, choosing what matters, and releasing the pressures holding you back. 🎧 What you’ll learn: What boredom and discomfort actually signal How to work on your dreams when you only have 10–20 minutes A grounding question to decide what’s truly worth your time How to trust yourself even if you’ve “let yourself down” before A moment-to-moment practice for choosing what life is asking of you now Why your brain clings to the fantasy of a “sorted, future version” of yourself What procrastination is really about (and why it’s not laziness) A simple tool—the Reverse Golden Rule—for becoming kinder to yourself How parenting reshaped Oliver’s relationship to time and control Why daily-ish habits work better than perfect streaks ✨ Homework: Spend 10 minutes doing something you know you want more of in your life—writing, calling someone you love, being outside, reading, creating. Not planning it, not optimizing it. Doing it. This is how change starts. For more from Oliver Burkeman: His new book, Meditations for Mortals His bestselling book, 4,000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals His website: www.oliverburkeman.com Subscribe to Liz’s substack to download a FREE Connection Card Game by visiting https://lizmoody.substack.com/welcome. Ready to uplevel every part of your life? Order Liz’s book 100 Ways to Change Your Life: The Science of Leveling Up Health, Happiness, Relationships & Success now!  Connect with Liz on Instagram @lizmoody or online at www.lizmoody.com. Buy our cute sweatshirts, conversation cards, and more at https://shop.lizmoody.com/. Use our discount codes from our  highly vetted and tested brand partners by visiting https://www.lizmoody.com/codes.  To join The Liz Moody Podcast Club Facebook group, go to www.facebook.com/groups/thelizmoodypodcast. This episode is brought to you completely free thanks to the following podcast sponsors: Seed: visit Seed.com/LizMoody and use code LIZMOODY for 25% off your first month. Pique: go to PiqueLife.com/LizMoody for up to 20% off plus a special gift. LMNT: head to DrinkLMNT.com/LizMoody to get a free sample pack with any order. IQ Bar: text LIZ to 64000 for 20% off all IQBAR products plus FREE shipping.  Wildgrain: visit Wildgrain.com/LizMoody for $30 off the first box - PLUS a free item in every box. The Liz Moody Podcast cover art by Zack. Music by Alex Ruimy. Formerly the Healthier Together Podcast. This podcast and website represent the opinions of Liz Moody and her guests. The content is not intended as medical advice. Please consult your healthcare provider for any personal health questions. The Liz Moody Podcast Episode 387 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You wrote this book that basically changed millions of people's lives by awakening them to the fact that we only have 4,000 weeks to live.

0:06.7

Since realizing that time is finite, what's one concrete change that you've made in the way that you live your day-to-day life?

0:13.8

I think it's much more important to develop that muscle that allows you to keep coming back to any kind of habit or practice.

0:20.0

Rather than to do this obsessive,

0:21.9

got to keep the streak going. It's a much more significant challenge to be able to say, like,

0:27.5

I'm going to do it today, even though I didn't do it yesterday. I thought this was such an interesting

0:31.1

part of the book because it spoke to me the idea that we're putting too much pressure on ourselves.

0:35.8

With this whole construct of what you think you need to do to be a better person, and then it's like, these are my marching orders day after day after day, and I gotta do them. Kind of the wrong way around, right? These should be supports to help you live more fully. My name's Oliver Berkman. I'm an author and a journalist. I wrote a book called 4,000 weeks time management for mortals. Thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited to get to

1:00.0

chat with you again, this time in person. It's great. I'm glad to be here. So you wrote this book that

1:04.8

basically changed millions of people's lives by awakening them to the fact that we only have

1:09.3

4,000 weeks to live. That was four

1:11.6

years ago now, right? I'm curious, you've done all these interviews, you've talked to all these people

1:16.1

about it. How has your thinking around that concept evolved and shifted and changed over time?

1:22.5

The most amazing thing that I find all the time is just the way in which you have to sort of, maybe not keep

1:29.4

relearning the lessons, but you learn them on a deeper level and a deeper level and a deeper

1:33.2

level. So what I'm trying to say here is I don't think I'm just as unfamiliar with this

1:38.4

idea of finitude as before I wrote the book. I think it has changed me. But there's always like another level

1:45.0

that you have to go down in terms of seeing like, oh, this is what it means to have limited time.

1:50.2

And this is what it means to have limited control over that time. It's fascinating to me.

1:56.0

The journey does not end. What are some of the levels you've been going to recently?

2:02.3

Well, first of all, I began writing that book before becoming a parent. Did that impact your time? We'll teach you

2:08.6

certain things about the limitations of time. I had this kind of intellectual idea about how it would be

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