The Smartphone Kids Are Not All Right

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🗓️ 21 March 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Hanna talks to her child Jacob about the thing they've argued the most about: being on their phone. Then, Hanna sits down with social psychologist Jonathan Haidt. In his new book, The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness, Haidt argues there is a direct tie between the wide distribution of smartphones and a rise in depression, anxiety, and loneliness among young people. After which, Hanna asks Jacob: Did I ruin your life? Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's up? What are you up to? I mean not much like I just got home. I'm going to do my laundry soon and then pack.
0:13.2	Uh-huh.
0:13.7	All right, you're leaving Sunday.
0:15.7	Yeah.
0:18.2	What's, hmm?
0:20.2	What are you typing?
0:21.2	I'm just chatting with friends like.
0:24.2	Wait, you're chatting with friends while we're doing this all the time,
0:27.8	don't worry about it.
0:29.1	So you're going to chat with friends throughout this interview.
0:31.3	Have we started the interview yet?
0:33.0	No, we haven't.
0:34.1	Okay.
0:39.6	Oh my God, tell me when you're ready.
0:44.0	This is Radio Atlantic. I'm Hana Rosen and that is my 20 year old child,
0:48.0	Jacob.
0:50.0	I'm ready. Wait, how long will this take?
0:55.0	This is basically how long will this take?
0:57.0	This is basically how it goes with me and Jacob.
1:02.0	I always think it's just me and them talking and I'm
1:05.3	always surprised to learn that there's someone else in the room. The
1:09.2	feeling is like when you're at a party and you're talking to someone and their eyes are scanning for someone more interesting.
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