The Small Business Growth Formula: More Profit, Impact & Freedom With Andy Clark

Finding Genius Podcast

Richard Jacobs

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we sit down with best-selling author and business strategist Andy Clark to unpack the ideas behind his latest book, Getting The Whole PIE: How to Create More Profit, Impact, and Enjoyment in Your Small Business…

Getting The Whole PIE is a roadmap for small business owners looking for a proven system to grow their business without working more. Many entrepreneurs start with big dreams but end up buried in tasks, overwhelmed by decisions, and frustrated that their hard work isn't producing the results they expected — but it doesn't have to stay that way. Andy shares a practical path forward by helping business owners create more of the three outcomes that matter most: profit, impact, and enjoyment (P-I-E).

This conversation explores:

Why so many small business owners get stuck.
How to grow your business without working more hours.
Practical systems for improving operations and team alignment.
Ways to avoid falling into the "success paradox."

With a background in business law and two decades of experience advising entrepreneurs, Andy developed The Whole PIE System™, a practical, step-by-step framework for getting out of the weeds and leading with confidence. He has worked with business owners across North America to simplify operations, align their teams, and drive sustainable growth. His approach blends strategic thinking with real-world execution, always grounded in what actually works for small businesses with limited time and big ambitions.

To learn more about Andy and The Whole PIE System™, click here now!

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🛍️ Recommended Books from this Episode

📖 Getting The Whole PIE: Your Step-by-Step Guide to a More Profitable, Impactful, and Enjoyable Small Business – A practical, no-fluff roadmap for building a business that's not just profitable, but also meaningful and enjoyable, with step-by-step strategies you can actually apply.
👉 Get it here

📘 The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It – A classic guide that breaks down why most small businesses fail and how to build systems that turn hard work into a scalable, successful company.
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📙 Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap...and Others Don't – A research-backed deep dive into what separates average companies from truly exceptional ones—and how you can apply those principles to your own business.
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📕 Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business – A hands-on guide to implementing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) to gain clarity, control, and consistent growth in your business.
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0:18.2	Richard Jacobs has made it his life's mission to find them for you.
0:22.2	He hunts down and interviews geniuses in every field, sleep science, cancer, stem cells,
0:27.1	ketogenic diets, and more.
0:28.6	Here come the geniuses.
0:30.3	This is the Finding Genius podcast with Richard Jacobs.
0:37.4	Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius podcast.
0:41.2	But yesterday is Andy Clark.
0:42.6	He's an author of a book called Getting the Whole Pie, How to Create More Profit, Impact,
0:46.9	and Enjoyment in your small business.
0:49.0	So he's a bestselling author and a business strategist behind the whole pie system,
0:52.9	trademark term.
0:53.7	He helps small business owners build companies that are more profitable, impactful, and enjoyable instead of a miserable, never-ending 80-hour-a-week slog, I guess to put my own spin on it. So welcome, Andy. Thanks for coming. All right, Richard. Well, it's good to be here. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, to me a bit about your background. Were you, I would guess, you know, you probably run businesses before and were kind of sucked into maybe a self-created job and then found a way to systematize your way out. But I don't know. What's your background? Yeah. I practiced law for about a dozen years. I was a business lawyer. I'm Canadian for the listener just to provide some
1:29.0	contacts. I spent all my professional life in Canada until about four years ago when my wife
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