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Hi everybody and welcome to Maintenance Phase, the podcast that already knows it's gonna die,

you don't have to tell us it's fine.

We're a J-shaped podcast.

We've been shaped mortality.

I always thought of this as an Apple-shaped podcast.

I am Michael Hobbs.

I'm Aubrey Gordon.

If you would like to support the show, you can do that at patreon.com slash maintenance

phase where you can get bonus episodes like this month's forthcoming bonus episode where we are

doing an award ceremony.

Yes, so we're gonna do the best and worst wellness influencers.

We're gonna do the best and worst wellness trends of 2021 and we have been taking nominations

and we are really excited to dive in and give the uh,

smelly moon juice crown to somebody.

Why is it smelly?

I don't know. I don't know where I was going with that.

I just, I just was talking.

I don't know either but I like it.

Okay, we just learned like 30 seconds before we started recording that I had switched topics

for this week and I thought that I told you but I did not in fact tell you.

So I was supposed to do an episode on obesity and COVID but I got sidetracked and pulled by my own

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