Hi everyone, Ione and Olivia here and we're so excited to be presenting a brand new limited podcast series exploring modern identity.

Made in collaboration with monkey, the skin you're in explores what it means to be alive today and the biggest issue is affecting our generation.

From period poverty to body positivity, gender and race, we want to know where the conversations

are out and what we can do to move them forward. We're talking to the people at the forefront

of these issues and acting change to their work and lives. So this is episode two, which is really

exciting. I can't believe we're already on episode two. which is really exciting. Hey.

Can't believe we're already on episode two.

So today we're going to be talking about body positivity, but more specifically like kind of a less mainstream version of body positivity, I suppose,

or like what body positivity should be, not necessarily what it is right now,

because even though body positivity is obviously such a huge deal

and something that quite a lot of people talk about or know about to a certain extent now,

there are still definitely barriers, especially when it comes to, like,

different body types and like fat women and fat people,

and the barriers they face and I suppose the

interview kind of focuses in on that in social media spaces because of who our guest is.

So today we're talking to Naomi Nicholas Williams who is someone who talks, I agree completely Ione,

about where the conversation around body

positivity should be, not necessarily where it is. I definitely think that's just such a good point

because like body positivity is so like blaz-é and it doesn't really feel like gritty enough

the conversation like where it is now. Yeah, it's totally that thing of just like the

de-politicisation of these social issues and that comes back to making it kind of about

individualism, doesn't it? So body positivity, like the idea, I don't know if I'm getting

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