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Well and welcome to the Skeptics Guide to the Universe.

Today is Thursday, November 10, 2022, and this is your host, Steven Nevella.

Joining me this week are Bob Nevella, Cara Santamaria, Jane Nevella, Evan Bernstein,

so Evan you were recently at Psychon, the CSI's annual conference, am I right?

Yes, I was, I wasn't there long, I happened to be in Las Vegas on the same weekend that

my sister got married in Las Vegas and it just so happened that-

Please keep the wedding, I went to the Quintetel.

For almost.

It was just across the street where at the hotel Flamingo where the CSI conference

was happening so I went over there for a few hours and saw some people, saw some faces

I hadn't seen and oh my gosh, at least since the last time we were at CSI back in 2018

and even before that with some other people.

Yeah, and the before time, I mean I before the-

Before times.

The pre.

So in case anyone listening doesn't know, the CSI, the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry,

used to be Psychop, they're the biggest national skeptical organization they've been

around since I think the mid-70s, 75, 75, 75, 75, 75, 76, 75, 76, mm-hmm.

They publish the Skeptical Inquiry, which is an excellent Skeptical magazine, you know,

I get it every month, you know, one of the few things I enjoy reading, you know, cover

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