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The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe

The Skeptics Guide #4 - Jun 15 2005

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe

Dr. Steven Novella MD

Fringe-science, Skeptic, Skepticism, Psuedoscience, Science, Paranormal

4.77.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2005

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Update on Kansas Evolution Debate, Science or Fiction, Alternative Theories of Matter

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the skeptics guide to the universe. This is your host,

0:06.9

Stephen Novella. Today is June 15th 2005. With me this week are Perry,

0:12.8

DeAngelus, Yellow, Evan Bernstein, and Robert Novella. Good evening everyone.

0:20.0

First a little follow up on our favorite story in the news this month, the

0:24.8

evolution debate in Kansas. The board still has yet to make a final decision,

0:32.4

but they are fighting with each other. The three moderate members of the board

0:38.1

last out against the conservative members who are proposing the changes to

0:44.6

the science standards. You might remember in 1999 I believe it was,

0:49.3

Kansas had voted to remove evolution from the science standards in that state.

0:54.9

The 2000 elections saw some of the conservative, more conservative members

1:01.3

removed and the new board reinstated the evolution friendly standards. In 2004,

1:07.3

however, the conservatives again seized a majority of the Kansas school board

1:12.1

and now they are considering once again either watering down treatment of

1:18.0

evolution in the science standards or forcing criticism of evolution, some say

1:26.0

that they are entertaining, introducing intelligent design, which is a form of

1:30.4

creationism into the standards. What's interesting in the past week is that the board

1:35.7

members themselves are now fighting pretty diligently among themselves. One

1:40.9

member Bill Wagnon, one of the more moderate members, told the three most

1:48.6

conservative board members, the ones who are proposing the changes that they

1:52.2

were all doops of intelligent design advocates. He said that the intelligent

1:58.2

design is all based on absolute and total fraud.

2:03.0

Sounds like a bright guy. Unfortunately, he and his are in the minority.

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