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Today is Wednesday, July 30th, 2025, and this is your host, Stephen Novella.

Joining me this week are Bob Novella.

Hey, everybody.

Kara Santa Maria.

Howdy. And Evan Bernstein. Good evening, everyone. Jay is on break this week. He's actually on his way to Alaska. He might be there by now, I'm not sure. Flying, I hope. Yes, flying to Alaska. It's a hell of a drive. And while he's there, he's going to visit with Bob's daughter, who works in Alaska. Ashley, hi, Ashley. Wish I could be there. Move back to Connecticut. Where in Alaska? Is it Juneau? Is it? Gerd. About an hour from Anchorage. Gerd. So the greater Anchorage? So I found an interesting Reddit post that got my attention. And within 15 seconds, I emailed the entire STU crew about it. It's like, whoa. I have not read it. What was it? What was it? It's a video. Oh, it's a video. Okay. This is Dr. Peter Carter, Dr. Peter Carter expert IPCC reviewer and director of climate emergency institute. Basically,

he's calling it. He joins David Suzuki in official recognition of unavoidable end game on

planet, climate and homo sapiens. And that's a weird ending to that sentence.

It's the beginning of the end. So I didn't see the full video, Steve. So what was your take on it? You know, I disagree with him. Well, good, because it was a little concerning that this guy would be saying, game over, kids. The game isn't over. I mean, it's never, well, it can never be over. Right, right. You could always make it less worse than it would have been if you didn't do anything.

So that's why I was no surprise.

But his pessimism seems extraordinary.

Like, it's too late.

We're doomed.

It's fine to be pessimistic.

It doesn't help.

And the specific things that he's saying are correct.

It's just the way he's framing it as quote

unquote too late, which is bullshit. And that's what, you know, as we discussed with Michael

Mann when he was on the show last time. Right. Man. That's the latest denialist strategy.

Well, it's too late. So why do anything? Right Do you think it's that, well, I don't know.

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