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Hello and welcome to the skeptics guide to the universe.

Today is Wednesday, June 18th, 2025, and this is your host, Stephen Novella.

Joining me this week are Bob Novella.

Hey, everybody.

Kara Santa Maria. Howdy? Jane Novella. Hey, everybody. Kara Santa Maria. Howdy.

Jay Novella. Hey, guys. Evan Bernstein. Good evening, everyone.

And we have a special guest rogue on this show, Justin Dob. Justin, welcome to the SGO.

Well, thank you so much. I've been listening for almost the entire time you've been doing it,

so this is actually pretty

crazy. Awesome. Welcome, Justin. Thank you. So, Justin, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Sure. So I spent a lot of time in a former career doing everything from brand strategy to

innovation consulting and future casting. So helping companies figure out what they

wanted to be when they grew up. Last year, I spent a year in a fellowship at the University of

Chicago trying to figure out what I wanted to be when I grow up. And in that fellowship,

I actually developed a kind of a graduate level course on how to do innovation with generative AI

tools.

So we'll see if I can actually get an adjunct position teaching that.

The wheels of academia seem to turn pretty slowly these days.

All right, and you're going to talk to us a little bit later in the show about artificial intelligence related news item.

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