Well, once again, to the conversation, that matter, podcast everyone. It's good to be with you. It's good to have you with me on this

Giving Tuesday. This is kind of a new tradition. I don't think I grew up with this. I don't

remember I mean we have a special guest judge.

Do you remember giving Tuesday when it started it was it wasn't that long ago?

It might have been I don't know within the last 10 years but I definitely didn't grow up with it.

It's a good thing though.

I appreciate it with all the commercialism

and the Cyber Monday and everything else going on.

It's good to have a reminder that there are people in need out there and there's Christians

actually need across the whole globe and we don't often we don't think about it

if it's not right in front of us we have a political situation here in the United

States I know I get wrapped up in that sometimes,

but there are things going on around the world.

And one of them, Judd, you're going to share with us.

So let me just introduce you.

You probably don't need an introduction,

but Judd Saul is the director of enemies within the church and and producer as well.

He is a filmmaker, has a number of other films. But he, the Lord put it on his heart and should I use that language is that okay you had a

conviction from the Holy Spirit I think as you would describe it to go and help these orphans and just Christians who are in Nigeria who are being

persecuted by Muslim terrorists and it's a very sad situation so you started equipping the persecuted and you're going to share with us about your

trip to Nigeria a little bit about the ministry and how people can give to helping these orphans.

So Judd I appreciate it. Thank you for joining me and being

...