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Guerrilla History

The Situation in Congo - From Mobutu to M23 Rebels Today w/ Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja (AR&D Ep. 6)

Guerrilla History

Henry

Education, History

4.8669 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

With this episode of Guerrilla History, were follow up on our last episode of African Revolutions and Decolonization with another discussion with Prof. Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja, who joined us last time for The Congo - From Colonization Through Lumumba & Mobutu.  Here, we pick up where we left off, with Mobutu's regime, and come to the present.  Particular focus is given to the situation in eastern Congo with the 23 rebels today and their foreign backers.  This is an extremely important conversation, so be sure to share this series with comrades!  We are still in the very early phases of the planned ~40 parts, so it is a great time for them to start listening in as well!
 
Also subscribe to our Substack (free!) to keep up to date with what we are doing.  With so many episodes coming in this series (and beyond), you won't want to miss anything, so get the updates straight to your inbox.  guerrillahistory.substack.com
 
Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja is Professor Emeritus of African and Afro-American Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and previously served as the DRC's Permanent Representative to the United Nations.  Additionally, he is the author of numerous brilliant books, including Patrice Lumumba and The Congo from Leopold to Kabila: A People's History

Help support the show by signing up to our patreon, where you also will get bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/guerrillahistory 

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You didn't remember Den Van Boo?

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No!

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The same thing happened in Algeria, in Africa.

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They didn't have anything but a rank.

0:17.0

The French had all these highly mechanized instruments of warfare, but they put some guerrilla action on.

0:28.0

Hello and welcome to guerrilla history, the podcast that acts as a reconnaissance report of global proletarian history and aims to use the lessons of history to analyze the present.

0:38.8

I'm one of your co-hosts, Henry Huckmacki.

0:41.7

Unfortunately not joined by my usual co-host, who of course is Professor Adnan Hussein,

0:46.6

historian director of the School of Religion in Queens University in Ontario, Canada.

0:51.8

Adnan had an emergency union meeting that he is very heavily involved with

0:56.6

come up last minute, and so he had to pull out of this conversation, unfortunately.

1:01.8

But I will try to do my best in his stead individually on this one.

1:07.4

But we have a terrific guest, a returning guests, and a guest that was on the previous

1:11.7

episode of African Revolutions and Decolonization. But before I reintroduce the guests and the topic

1:17.9

that we'll be talking about today, let me remind you listeners that you can help support the show

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and allow us to continue making episodes like this by going to patreon.com forward slash guerrilla history.

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That's G-U-E-R-R-I-L-A history.

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And you can keep up to date with everything that Adnan and I are doing individually as well as collectively by following us on social media. We're on Twitter at Gorilla underscore Pod against G-U-E-R-R-I-L-A-U-L-A-U-Pod.

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And we also have a free substack so you can get periodic updates directly into your email inbox and not rely on social media algorithms to show you what we're doing by going to

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GorillaHistory.substack.com.

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