Welcome to Alien Theorizing, Case File 263, I'm Braden.

I'm Dan. And I'm Andrew. And tonight we're joined by a very special guest, a legit professional pod

podcaster, writer, actor, producer. I was the executive producer at How Stuff Works,

and you would probably know his voice best from the podcast stuff they don't want you to know.

We have Ben Bowen joining us tonight. Welcome Ben. Oh gosh, yeah. Thank you for having me.

Famously, one of the, one of only two guests to mess up coming on the show.

You're a good company, my friend. You know, as I tell of me, it's Elvis and myself say,

come here with a mayor culpa. And I wanted to, wanted to make good on this. We, yeah,

yeah, we got a little kid. We got to kill this somewhere. Yeah, we

know, it's the book. Back to just Elvis. Yeah, we only welcome back to just Elvis. Yeah, good,

good, good grudges. Scratch you off there. Yeah, but thank you guys so much for having me. I

reached out. Now we had met a number of years ago at a thing called AlienCon. And I like to,

I like to think that we kind of clicked and connected on a lot of the same things. So I kept

and I kept an eye out and an ear out. And I wanted to, I wanted to come like tell you guys

coats or whatever they say. I don't know English idioms very well. I don't know to talk about

stuff that that was that I thought would be of interest to all of us. And I got to say, man,

I don't, I know this is part of the the live stuff now. But the folks, if you're too

an entity, ATT, welcome. And the coolest stuff is some of the backstage conversation.

Friendly it is. It feels like it feels like walking into a very cozy space to be able to shoot

the breeze for a little bit before we, before we get rolling. You know what I mean? And also,

also, yeah, thanks for having me after I totally shot the bed on showing up last night.

Not a problem. I mean, it's just the way you nearly missed the vote of, I think it was 51% in

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