The Silent War of Cyber, Resources, and Opinion | Gen. Robert Spalding

American Thought Leaders

The Epoch Times

Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 9 August 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

How does the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) cognitive warfare manifest in the West? How prevalent is it? And how can Americans recognize it?

Few understand this elusive subject better than Robert Spalding. The CEO of Sempre, Spalding is a retired Air Force brigadier general and B-2 stealth bomber pilot, former senior director of strategy at the National Security Council, and author of “War Without Rules: China’s Playbook for Global Domination.”

“We have these enormous political warfare and psychological warfare campaigns happening in the United States. We have nobody that’s responsible for responding to them,” he says.

In this episode, he breaks down how the CCP is influencing Americans and weaponizing resources like rare earths. And he explains why key vulnerabilities in America’s networks could be exploited in ways devastating to the United States.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0	We have these enormous political warfare and psychological warfare campaigns happening in the United States.
0:05.0	We have nobody that's responsible for responding to them.
0:09.0	Few people understand the Chinese Communist Party's unrestricted warfare methods, as well as Robert Spalding.
0:15.0	He's a retired Air Force Brigadier General and B-2 stealth bomber pilot,
0:19.0	former Senior Director of Strategy at the National
0:21.9	Security Council, and author of War Without Rules.
0:25.4	To depend on an enemy to supply things that are absolutely critical for your national
0:30.5	security.
0:31.3	This is bad strategy, it's bad policy on the part of the United States to leave ourselves open to blackmail.
0:39.0	He's also the CEO of Semper, a company actively hardening America's network security.
0:45.0	Maui fire, L.A. fire, Hurricane Haleen, 9-11.
0:50.4	All of these crises that take down communications, things stop working because they're not built to survive an attack.
0:57.4	They're not even built to survive a natural disaster.
1:00.7	This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellick.
1:07.8	Robert Spalding, so good to have you back on American Thought Leaders.
1:11.3	Great to be back.
1:12.3	So we've interviewed multiple times over the last six years.
1:17.1	I still remember the first time we were actually talking about rare earth and trade.
1:22.1	In this case, it was this new trade agreement that the Trump administration, Trump 45,
1:27.4	had made with communist China.
1:29.9	Tell me what is happening with the Trump approach to trade and how does that connect with,
1:37.3	you know, all sorts of different policies, including communist China?
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