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Money Tree Investing

The Silent Bull Market That No One Is Talking About

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

There's a silent bull market right now that no one is talking about. Gold has had a powerful breakout and silver’s lagging but still strengthening. Gold has surged from $2,000 to $3,600 since 2023, driven largely by central bank buying amid global distrust of U.S. reserves. Investors should approach metals through ETFs rather than individual picks unless you have deep expertise. We also talk the likelihood of rate cuts under political pressure, persistent “slow burn” inflation from tariffs and supply issues, de-dollarization, and the need for diversification beyond passive index funds. Inflation isn’t dead, passive portfolios are under strain, and active allocation to precious metals may be one of the most underpriced opportunities available.

We discuss... 

  • Gold has staged a historic breakout, climbing from around $2,000 in 2023 to roughly $3,600, with central bank buying acting as the primary driver.
  • Global distrust in the U.S. dollar and concerns about the credibility of U.S. reserves are pushing sovereign nations toward gold accumulation.
  • Unlike gold, silver remains more dependent on retail participation and industrial demand, leaving it lagging but positioned for potential catch-up.
  • Silver faces supply constraints that limit downside, with demand tied to solar, electronics, and other industrial uses, making it a dual-purpose metal.
  • Mining stocks were highlighted as structurally poor businesses due to high costs and weak capital discipline, yet they are soaring as leveraged plays on rising metals.
  • Junior miners offer the most explosive upside but come with extreme risks, making them closer to speculative lottery tickets than investments.
  • For most investors, ETFs and broad metals exposure were recommended as the safer approach compared to individual mining stock selection.
  • Inflation is not “dead” but a persistent, slow-burn phenomenon fueled by tariffs, supply chain issues, and ongoing policy shifts.
  • Political pressure makes interest rate cuts increasingly likely, regardless of whether inflation is fully under control.
  • A broader theme of de-dollarization is accelerating gold’s role in global reserves as nations seek alternatives to U.S. dominance.
  • Passive index funds were critiqued as over-reliant on historical correlations that no longer hold, leaving portfolios vulnerable.
  • The hosts concluded that gold, silver, and related hard assets remain one of the most underpriced and overlooked opportunities for active investors today.

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | Mergent College Advisors

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.9

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to this week's show. My name's Kirk Chisholm.

0:14.3

I'll be your host. And today I'm joined with Doug Hagerin. Hey, Doug.

0:17.6

Hey, Kirk. How are you doing? It's been a heck of a week. It has been. It has been a heck of a week.

0:23.7

We're starting early today because you had some conflicts and it's been an interesting week all

0:28.0

around. I won't spend too much time talking about politics because we don't do that in the show,

0:33.0

but I can't give a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk, who has a good influence in the world,

0:37.5

whether you agreed with him or not. It's sad when Looney Tunes take out good people. So I won't

0:44.0

give a moment of silence, but I think everyone, even whether you agree with them or not, he was a good

0:47.7

influence on the youth and got people to think. Anyway, I will say, I would like to thank all my

0:52.9

Democrat friends who have now migrated away from the Democratic Party, which is now the party of hate and the party of violence.

0:59.3

So thank you all for basically leaving like rats from a ship from the Democratic Party.

1:04.7

I don't know where your new home will be, but it certainly won't be the party of hate and the party of violence.

1:09.5

So thank you all for that shift. If you haven't made the shift yet, I highly recommend it because you don't want to be associated with what's going on. Now, enough about that. I'm a little perturbed, but I'm trying to keep this above board. So let's dive right in. We talked a lot about the shift going on in gold, silver, and mining stocks. It's a crazy shift. We've had a lot of

1:31.1

change start to happen. And I'm going to start to pull up. Let me see if I can pull up one of

1:35.3

these charts here. I want to share again what's going on because I've got a lot of feedback from

1:40.4

the audience after the last week's show. I think a lot of people were unaware of what's going

1:45.2

on in gold. And I would just like to point out, this is like the two-year chart. Gold has gone

1:51.4

from about 2000 up to 3,600. If you look in the weeklies, this goes back to 2017, where gold

1:57.4

was about 1,100. Now it's 3,600. Woo-hoo, that's what I've got to say.

2:02.6

Gold has done phenomenally well.

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