The shutdown is over. Now, the political fallout begins

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🗓️ 13 November 2025

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Former Republican Rep. Charlie Dent discusses what's next for Republicans and Democrats now that the shutdown is over and the fight over rising health care costs continues. Then, the House Oversight Committee released a trove of documents on Wednesday from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump's name appears multiple times, raising questions about what Trump may have known about Epstein's crimes. The Washington Post's Isaac Arnsdorf joins us. And, a new study finds that nearly every daily activity is more enjoyable when done with someone else. Psychology professor Elizabeth Dunn tells us more.

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0:26.8	So I just want to tell the American people, you should not forget this.
0:30.7	When we come up to midterms and other things, don't forget what they've done to our country.
0:37.4	The federal government is finally reopened, and Republicans are ready to add to their political capital. It's Thursday, November 13th,
0:39.7	and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR Boston. I'm Shiko Tha Uri.
0:49.1	Today on the show, Jeffrey Epstein's private emails are released. What do they reveal about his relationship
0:55.4	with Donald Trump and what he knew about the convicted sex offender? But first, our country's
1:02.0	longest federal government shutdown is finally over. Last night, President Trump signed the
1:07.2	spending deal and blamed Democrats for the 43-day impasse, which he said hurt the economy.
1:13.5	And after Democrats' big election wins last week, a Republicans using this shutdown to their
1:19.0	political advantage. Let's get perspective from Charlie Dent. He's a Republican political analyst
1:24.5	and a former congressman from Pennsylvania.
1:29.7	Here's his conversation with Peter O'Dowd.
1:32.9	I don't really think either side came out of this smelling particularly good.
1:36.8	Yes, if you look at the polls, it indicated that Republicans were being blamed.
1:39.3	Slightly more than the Democrats for the shutdown.
1:41.3	But neither side looked good.
1:53.3	You can make the case that Democrats lost the shutdown because they clearly did not achieve their policy objective, which was to extend the ACA, the Affordable Care Act, health insurance premiums and tax credits.
1:54.5	So they didn't win there. But they probably will win the war because I think going forward now, Republicans will be under tremendous pressure to extend those subsidies under the Affordable Care Act.
2:07.3	Let's talk about that. Charlie Dent, let's talk about that because clearly this fight isn't over.
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