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The Short Stacks 22: Ibram X. Kendi//How to be an Antiracist

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Traci Thomas

Arts, Literature, Books, Society & Culture

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2019

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Author and historian Ibram X. Kendi joins us today on The Short Stacks to talk about his New York Times Bestselling book, How to be an Antiracist. We discuss how he came to write this book as a mix of history and memoir. Then he shares his advice for discussing racism with loved ones, and gives us plenty of book and author recommendations to continue on our antiracist journeys.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Short Stacks, are shorter conversations with authors about their process and

0:12.7

their books. I'm your host Tracy Thomas and I could not be more thrilled about

0:16.6

today's episode. Our guest is author historian and one of my personal heroes

0:21.0

Dr. Ibrahim X. Kendi, who wrote the National Book Award winning

0:24.5

stamped from the beginning, as well as this year's New York Times bestseller, How to Be an Anti-Racist.

0:29.8

Before we dive into the conversation, I wanted to remind you. Everything we talk about on

0:33.8

today's episode can be found in the show notes. Use the link there to shop for the

0:37.6

books we've discussed and read the articles we mentioned. Plus you'll find

0:41.4

our social media accounts in the show notes to keep you connected to the stacks.

0:45.0

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0:49.0

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0:54.0

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0:59.2

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1:05.0

Okay, now it's time for my spoiler-free interview with Dr. Ibrahim X. Kendi. All right you guys I am sitting here today with Dr. Ebrum X Kendii, author of How to Be an Anti-racist, also famously of Stamp

1:27.2

From the Beginning.

1:28.3

Ibrahim, welcome to the Snacks.

1:30.1

Thank you for having me on the show.

1:31.6

This is truly one of my great honors. I love your work. I love your books. So I'm going to try not to fan girl too much, but you'll forgive me, I hope. We always start in the same place in about 30 seconds or so can you tell us about

1:46.6

how to be an anti-racist?

1:48.1

Sure, so how to be an anti-racist makes this sort of case that the opposite of being a racist is not not racist.

1:56.9

It's being an anti-racist and not racist has historically been a term of denial. While anti-racist has a very clear definition. So if

2:06.9

racist ideas can note racial hierarchy, anti-racist ideas can note racial

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