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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

The Shocking Jan. 6 Hearing Was Not a Slam Dunk

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A surprise session of the House’s Jan. 6 committee featured testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, the former executive assistant to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. Hutchinson was inside the White House as the Jan. 6 riot happened, and she testified that Trump knew an armed crowd was chanting “hang Mike Pence”—the thing that upset him most was not being able to join them. 


Hutchinson’s testimony was the bombshell the committee had been waiting for. Is it enough to actually hold Donald Trump accountable?


Guest: Ben Mathis-Lilley, senior writer at Slate.


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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by National Rail.

0:03.4

Picture it, the view of the British countryside from your window seat.

0:07.2

The excitement of knowing you're on route to see someone you love.

0:10.3

The smokers are satisfaction you get knowing that you're not stuck in traffic.

0:13.8

It's a great feeling.

0:15.6

Whether it's wild weekends, Sunday surprises, anywhere adventures, get closer to the people,

0:21.3

places and things you love with rail.

0:24.0

Nothing beats being there.

0:32.3

The surprise hearing this week in front of the January 6th Select Committee was so well

0:37.7

plotted, so vivid that it didn't really feel like a hearing at all.

0:42.7

It felt like an episode of the West Wing.

0:45.5

There was a single witness, Cassidy Hutchinson.

0:49.5

Cassidy was an age to Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

0:52.6

Mr. Chairman, we will begin today with an exchange that first provided Miss Hutchinson

0:58.0

a tangible sense of the ongoing planning for the events of January 6th.

1:03.4

Cassidy's testimony started off with a bit of foreshadowing, a story about a late-night

1:08.0

meeting between the chief of staff and the president's lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

1:12.5

She's walking with Rudy Giuliani and he tells her, you know, something big is happening

1:17.1

on January 6th.

1:18.7

Slade's Ben Mathis Lilly is acting as my guide to these hearings.

1:22.4

He looked at me and said something to the effect of, Cassidy, you excited for the 6th.

1:27.9

It's going to be a great day.

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