And this was one of the arguments of the pro-life establishment, that if you criminalize abortion,

it's going to destroy the pregnancy resource centers. And a woman is now pregnant, and she knows, I'm not going to jail. I'm not going to murder my child. Where is she going to go for help to the pregnancy resource centers? Dude, what? Okay, so let's just say it for the fifth time on this show. No one I've ever met supports retroactively rounding up post-abort of women who got abortions and killed their babies when it was legal.

Yeah. the fifth time on this show, no one I've ever met supports retroactively rounding up post-abort of women who got abortions and killed their babies when it was legal.

You're like, oh, oh, if that's Christian nationalism, I want some more. You guys ready for this one. This one's kind of overdue. Everyone's been saying they've been telling me for a long time. I get all the comments. Why haven't you had this guy in your show? What the heck is happening around the country right now? Have you heard of equal protection bills? We've talked about this on the show before. If you're new to the Seth Gruber show, you're going to love this episode. Did you know that there are aspects of the pro-life establishment that are stopping these bills? What are these bills? We're going to get

into all of it today. What is the truth behind groups who advocate for the full equal protection of

little babies? Pastor Jeff Durbin, the pastor at Apologya Church in Phoenix, Arizona, and the head

of Apologya Studios, joins me today to get into the weeds

of what equal protection means, the history of the abolitionist movement, and how the church

has historically been responsible for protecting the preborn. This is an interesting,

beautiful, amazing, fascinating episode. And if you want to get involved with this movement,

this is an episode for you. Guys, check out Gruberware, our fun controversial pro-life merch. I know is really not controversial, but for some reason our stupid society thinks it is at Sethcruber.com. What do we, thank you, Mom, for not killing me. That's a great shirt. Or former fetus, sassy since conception. We have all the shirts for you to get stared at when you go out in public.

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