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🗓️ 13 January 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Ben West was 17 when his younger brother died by suicide. He’s since gone on to become a mental health campaigner, and has found humour can help communicate deeply traumatic messages.
In this chat with Fearne, Ben talks through what signs to look for if you’re concerned about someone’s mental health. Then, how do you break the awkward silence when you both know you need to talk about a big topic like poor mental health? You’ll be able to approach the conversation in a compassionate, rather than confronting, way.
Or, maybe you’re the one keeping big thoughts and feelings inside but have become a master of masking your truth. Fearne shares her experience of feeling defensive and telling people she’s ‘fine’ when they asked concerned questions.
Ben also takes a thorough look at the mental health system and explains the reality of what care looks like in the UK (and what he’s doing to change it for the better!)
Plus, how have people like Andrew Tate affected boys’ mental health? And why is finding the right therapist is a bit like dating...?
CONTENT WARNING: This episode is all about the reality of suicide.
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0:00.0 | Before we start, this episode is about suicide. It's a vital conversation that we need to be having, |
0:06.1 | but I totally understand if you'd rather leave it for now and come back to this episode when it feels right for you. |
0:13.3 | Hello and a massive welcome to Happy Place with me, Fern Cotton. |
0:18.4 | This is the show that offers really practical ways |
0:21.3 | to support your mental health. |
0:23.1 | Today, I'm chatting to the brilliant Ben West. |
0:26.1 | The last thing that happened between me and Sam |
0:27.8 | was, as he was leaving, |
0:29.6 | I sort of shouted something after him |
0:31.3 | because I was annoyed at how he'd not been involved in dinner. |
0:34.9 | It ended up being the last thing I ever said to him |
0:36.9 | was just this heated argument. |
0:38.3 | And that just crushed me because I realized, oh my God, he did it because of me. |
0:43.9 | He did it because of that conversation. And I went into this absolute panic. |
0:48.6 | And it got so intense that I felt like I couldn't tell anyone. |
0:52.8 | But in mind we had the police at our house, like detectives and stuff. |
0:56.2 | I was like, I'm going to get arrested. |
0:57.9 | It's my fault. |
0:58.8 | Like they're going to arrest me for manslaughter or something. |
1:01.1 | So look, we're in the thick of Jan now. |
1:02.7 | We're in it. |
1:03.8 | There's no going back. |
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