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From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is third degree.

I'm Ellie Honig.

Thank you. is third degree. I'm Ellie Honig. Well, welcome back, everybody. It's another Friday episode. Everyone knows my favorite episodes because I have company and I love having someone

else to kick things around with. Today we welcome back young Ellie, Ellie, Ellie, Nacmani.

Ellie, great to see you again. Hey, great to be here, Ellie. Thanks so much for having me on,

as always. So you have just finished finals, law school finals, correct? That's correct,

glad to be done. It was mostly administrative law and public law

classes this semester, which had a fun feel to it, but really learned a lot. Well, only you, I think,

would describe administrative law as, quote, fun. And that's why we love you here on the podcast.

Your enthusiasm for all things legal. How do you feel? I remember this real sense of just deep relief when finals were

over. I think it's a combination both of relief and also, okay, so what now? So I don't start my

summer job for another couple of weeks. And there's this immense downtime. So, you know,

obviously we're remote, we're home. So I was walking around the house yesterday and just thinking,

well, I've got nowhere to be for a minute or two. And so, you know, you just walk around,

get something to eat or something. Yeah, hop on a podcast now and then. I got to ask you because

I have very visceral memories of this. I assume now your grades just pop up on some sort of

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