The Shades of Influence with Robin Dreeke and Chase Hughes

The Science of Success

Matt Bodnar

Entrepreneurship, Education, Social Sciences, Science, Self-improvement, Business

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🗓️ 17 May 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re diving into the two sides of the topic of influence.

Surprisingly, there are two very different schools of thought on the best way to influence someone. But which style is more effective? What are the pros and cons of each of them?

In order to get to the bottom of this debate, we brought in some incredible experts to make their cases on the topic. First, we’ll dig into the light side of the force of influence. You’ll hear from Robin Dreeke.

Robin began his career in law enforcement in 1997 after serving in the United States Marine Corp. Robin has directed the behavior analysis program of a federal law enforcement agency and has received training and operational experience in social psychology and the science of relationship management. Robin is currently an agent of the FBI and the author of “It’s Not All About “Me”, The Code of Trust and the newly released Sizing People Up.

Then, representing the dark side of influence you'll hear from Chase Hughes, Chase Hughes is the founder of Ellipsis Behavior Laboratories and the amazon bestselling author of The Ellipsis Manual. Chase previously served in the US Navy as part of the correctional and prisoner management departments. Chase speaks on a variety of topics including brainwashing and attraction and frequently develops new programs for the US Government and members of anti-human-trafficking teams around the world.

Both of these experts have INCREDIBLE backgrounds and some amazing stories as well. In the end, how you use these incredible powers is up to you.

Which side are you on?

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Science of Success, introducing your host, Matt Bodhner.
0:12.0	Welcome to the Science of Success, the number one evidence-based growth podcast on the
0:17.0	Internet, with more than 5 million downloads and listeners in over 100 countries.
0:22.6	Have you seen Star Wars? Are you drawn to the light side of the force? Or do you gravitate
0:28.6	to the power of the dark side? In this week's episode, we're diving into the two sides of
0:35.1	influence. Surprisingly, there are two very different schools of thought on the best
0:41.0	ways to influence someone. But which style is more effective? And what are the pros and
0:46.2	cons of each of them?
0:48.3	In order to get to the bottom of this debate, we brought in some incredible experts to make
0:52.8	their case on each of these topics. First, we'll dig into the light side of influence.
0:59.3	You'll hear from Robin Dreek. Robin began his career in law enforcement in 1997 after
1:04.3	serving in the United States Marine Corps. Robin has directed the Behavior Analysis Program
1:10.2	of a Federal Law Enforcement Agency and has received training and operational experience
1:14.7	in social psychology and the science of relationship management. He's currently an agent of the
1:19.8	FBI and the author of It's Not All About Me, the Code of Trust, and the newly released
1:26.0	sizing people up. Then, representing the dark side of influence, we'll hear from Chase
1:32.3	Hughes. Chase Hughes is the founder of Ellipsis Behavior Laboratories and the Amazon bestselling
1:38.6	author of the Ellipsis Manual. Chase previously served in the US Navy as part of the correctional
1:45.5	and prisoner management departments. Chase speaks on a variety of topics, including brainwashing,
1:50.7	attraction, and frequently develops new programs for the US government and members of anti-human
1:56.2	trafficking teams around the world. Both of these experts have incredible backgrounds
2:01.8	and some amazing stories. In the end, how you use these incredible powers is up to you.
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