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Hello and welcome to The Spectator Podcast. I'm Laura Prendergast and on this week's episode we'll be discussing the sexual reformation.

We'll also be looking at Trump's ties with Russia, and finally we'll be talking

about dining with Medigliani. First up, Westminster is a wash with rumours of sexual

wrongdoing, and allegations are coming in thick and fast, but whilst it's good that victims of

abuse are able to speak out, it's something more sinister happening beyond the current hysteria.

Joining me now on the podcast to discuss,

Katie Balls and Douglas Murray,

who writes in this week's spectator that sexual freedom has turned into sexual fear.

So, Douglas, in your piece, you suggest that there's a profound shift going on

in our attitude towards sex.

What do you think seems to be happening?

Well, I say it's a sexual counter-revolution.

For the sexual revolution of the 60s, which didn't just happen in a bang,

it sort of, you know, it gradually crept up on people with clear markers.

The counter-sexual revolution, it seems to be creeping up on people as well.

There are a few markers along the way, but I think we are going through one of them at the moment the post- Weinstein endless revelations i think this is obviously uh um got important claims among it

but caught up in those important important claims seemed to me to be a form of uh i think, Puritan, the counter-revolutionarism.

And you suggest also that the rules are now being redrawn.

Yes.

Well, I mean, several things.

One is obviously there is the elision of very serious claims, including claims that should be looked into by the police and will be,

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