Hello there, and welcome to the Think You Fellows podcast.

My name is Caleb Keith, and I'm joined by my father, Dr. Scott Keith, and we have a guest today, Dave Zoll.

Dave is, you're the executive director of Mockingbird Ministries.

Is that your title there?

Still, yes.

Still, yes.

You have been on the show, I think, four or five times you, the last time you were on the show was about this time last year.

You came and you were at the Here We Still Stay in Conference, and we talked about your book, Seculosity.

If people haven't listened to that episode or seen, I'd be surprised if they haven't seen at least a picture of the book on Instagram or something.

They should check that episode out first and then probably go buy the book and read it.

By the book.

By the book.

Yeah, I think the next. Dead authors don't need your money, but alive ones do.

That's a good one.

I won't disagree.

We're going to have, while we're here this weekend, we're going to have a lot of people

who have books recently out and I think we might just do like a sweep of book topics on

here.

And one of the things I would say to listeners is statistically people are not reading that much.

And people buy, it's like something like five times the amount of books they read a year.

So we know that when we ask you to buy a book, we're sort of like betting for 50 to 100% of your reading attention for the year.

But I would say this is one of those ones that you should definitely add to the list where it's worth that 50% of all the reading you're going to do this year.

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