Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology.

My guest today is the one and only Max Okato, who is a pastor speaker and bestselling author,

who in his own words, writes books for people who don't read books.

I love that tagline.

Max's books have sold more than 150 million copies in over 50 languages worldwide.

And he currently serves as a semi-retired pastor

of Oak Hills Church in San Antonio, Texas. His latest book is Tame Your Thoughts, Three Tools to

Renew Your Mind and Transform Your Life, which is the subject of our conversation. Oh, man, I love

Max Lekato. I got to know Max a few years ago when I think his publicist reached out to have him on the podcast. I was kind of blown away that Max Likato wanted to come on my podcast. Come to find out he's a big fan of Theology and Arra, which I'm still blown away at. So, yeah, as you'll see, Max is one of the most kind, gentle, humble, and wise people you will ever talk to. So,

please welcome back to the show, the one-year-old-old-a-Max, Lukato.

Max L'Cicator. Welcome back to Theolog Ra. I think this is your third time being on.

So I love that we make this a habit.

Every time you release a book, we get to have you on to talk about it.

I've been looking forward to this ever since I saw it on the schedule, Preston.

Yeah.

I've told you before, can I just tell you again?

I think your role in this day among all seekers, not just

evangelicals, but all seekers, is so essential.

You convene roundtables.

You give us a safe place to hear opposing.

Opposing, it made me a strong word, just a different slant.

And that's rare.

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