Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox. Welcome to with friends like these.

There are no topics more interesting than death, sex, and money. And there are no topics

more radioactive and actual conversation. That's why Anna's sale created a podcast that

always goes there. It's called appropriately enough death, sex, and money. It's all about

uncomfortable conversations. And if you're listening to this podcast, you really should

listen to that podcast. Her book, let's talk about hard things, adds family and identity

to the mix. The book is part memoir, part instruction manual, and part am meditation

on these topics. There aren't a lot of easy answers to any of the questions that they

raise. One constant, and we'll be talking about this a lot, is making the decision to

focus on the relationship between people rather than what we think is right or wrong. You'd

be surprised how many hard conversations get easier by asking, what do you need from

me? Anna, sale, the host of death, sex, and money coming right up.

Anna, welcome to the show. Thank you. So you have a podcast, death, sex, and money. You've

written a book, sort of exploring those topics in a couple others. But I actually, the very

first thing I wanted to ask you is which of those topics is hardest for you? Right now,

it is money, and it's been money most of my life. But I want to feel a little asterisk

that I'm sure it will change depending on what happens in my life. Yeah, money for me is

money for me, and like a lot of people, I mean, it's hard because you, figuring out even

the vocabulary to use is hard because I don't, there's not a very robust public vocabulary

for everything from making decisions about what to do in a money kind of dilemma question.

How do I spend this money? What should I do? What do I do if I don't have enough? And

then also I have not historically, and I'm trying to become more aware, like really had

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