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The secret to making the right career decisions with Patty Stonesifer | from WorkLife with Molly Graham

TED Business

TED

Business, Business Leadership Podcast, Ted Talks Business, Ted Business Podcast, Ted Talks, Ted Modupe, Modupe Akinola

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

You might think the biggest, most prestigious job is always the right career move. Patty Stonesifer — founding CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and an early Amazon board member — says that’s exactly the wrong way to decide what to do next. So what should guide your career? In this episode, Patty joins Molly to share the nine-word personal mission statement she’s used for decades to filter opportunities, turn down what doesn’t fit, and speak up for what matters. Patty shares how you can write your own, and even coaches Molly through creating hers in real time.


WorkLife is a podcast from TED where host and company builder Molly Graham and her expert guests talk through the messy feelings we all experience at work. Ambition and failure, joy and burnout, confidence and self-doubt — this show digs into it all to help you build a career without losing yourself. Listen now: https://link.mgln.ai/Yz5dsY



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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's Madupa here.

0:09.2

Today we're sharing an episode of a podcast we think you'll love.

0:13.3

It's been handpicked by the TED staff, and we think that as TED business listeners, you'll come away with a fresh idea and a totally new perspective.

0:22.7

Enjoy and head to the link in the description for more.

0:31.5

Work consumes most of our lives.

0:34.9

Particularly if you're working 40, 50 or more hours per week, that is a lot of life.

0:41.2

Over time, what you do for work can shape not just how you spend your days, but how you think about

0:46.3

yourself. And yet, for something that takes up so much of our lives, most of us are basically

0:51.8

improvising when it comes to deciding what work we should do.

0:55.7

Early in my career, I was definitely in some kind of race. It was a race to prove myself, to get

1:02.0

recognition that I was good at things. That recognition came in the form of titles and promotions

1:07.5

and compensation and all the visible signals that I was winning.

1:12.2

Even though it was somebody else's race and somebody else's rules, for a long time, I let it

1:17.8

guide how I made decisions about my career. And then at some point, life made me pause and ask

1:23.5

a much harder question. What do I actually want? What does success mean to me? What matters to me

1:31.3

in my life? What do I want my life to be about? And how does work fit in to all of that? Most of the

1:39.3

big decisions in our careers don't come with clear answers. They come with tradeoffs. Prestige versus meaning,

1:46.3

scale versus proximity, money versus time, safety versus growth. So when all the options look good

1:53.4

on paper, how do you stay true to yourself? And how do you decide what's actually right for you?

2:03.6

I'm Molly Graham and this is WorkLife, a show where we untangle the messy human side of work.

2:11.5

Patty Stonecifer is one of the people I have turned to most often when I've made decisions in my career.

2:18.2

I admire her so much, not just because of what she's done, but because she's always seemed

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