The Secret to Couples Who Are Still Crazy About Each Other | Chris & Jamie Bailey | Episode 419
The Speakeasy
The Girl Named Blake
4.8 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
This episode is an invitation to rethink what a thriving marriage actually looks like. If you've been focused on loving your spouse but wondering how to genuinely like them too, this conversation is for you.
I sat down with Christian counselors Chris and Jamie Bailey of Expedition Marriage to discuss building a marriage where both people are willing to let God transform them. Their story is proof that healthy marriages aren't built by perfect people.
Chris and Jamie share how their relationship began before either knew Christ and how years of anxiety, unhealthy expectations, and emotional struggles nearly derailed their marriage. Jamie opens up about severe anxiety and panic attacks, while Chris discusses the helplessness he felt trying to "fix" something he couldn't control. Together, they explain how counseling, faith, and learning healthier patterns moved them toward healing.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, y'all welcome back to the Speakeasy podcast. Today I have Chris and Jamie Bailey, who have |
| 0:05.3 | genuinely become some of my favorite humans. I got to be on their podcast last year, and so it was |
| 0:11.6 | just a matter of time before. I got to have them on mine. They are the people behind Expedition |
| 0:17.2 | Marriage. They are both Christian counselors. They have a thriving marriage, but it wasn't |
| 0:22.0 | always like that. I don't know about you, but those are my favorite people to learn about marriage |
| 0:27.6 | from, the ones that are open and honest about what they have walked through, what God had to do, |
| 0:33.1 | break, mend, and reform for them to be where they are today. So we kind of covered a lot of |
| 0:39.5 | ground. We talked about those really rough early years where she had a lot of |
| 0:44.5 | anxiety. We talked about what that's like on both ends for him and for her and |
| 0:50.1 | for their marriage and how she came out of that. We talked about counseling and we talked about somatic therapy. And we talked about putting anxiety in the trunk. And we also talked about what it takes today to have a marriage where you don't just love each other. You also like each other. Because for Jeremy and I, that's really become the goal. Like, I don't want to just love you because I stood in front of a bunch of people and said I would, but because I like you and I enjoy you and you are my best friend. |
| 1:15.1 | And so I think there's a lot for everybody. |
| 1:16.6 | I think this is going to be great for singles and for married and for people that are in the in between. |
| 1:22.0 | So let's get into it. |
| 1:32.2 | Oh my gosh, Chris and Jamie, welcome to the speak easy. |
| 1:34.2 | Oh, thanks for having us. |
| 1:35.1 | Yeah, this is fun. |
| 1:42.5 | This is exciting for me because I got to be on y'all's podcast in the past, and it was just a dream. |
| 1:46.2 | Like, you know those people that you just, I feel like I'm hanging out with my mom and dad. |
| 1:46.8 | We're just like hanging out and talking. |
| 1:49.0 | And I'm like, I feel like a sponge when I'm with y'all or when I'm looking at your |
| 1:54.0 | content. |
| 1:54.4 | I just want to like soak it in and learn. |
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