The Secret to a Meaningful Life (w/ Bill Burnett & Dave Evans)

Soul Boom

Rainn Wilson

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6 • 720 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Bill Burnett and Dave Evans, co-authors of Designing Your Life, join us to unpack why so many people are feeling stuck, why the search for one perfect passion can be misleading, and how radical acceptance, reframing, and small moments of meaning can transform the human experience. SPONSORS! 👇 Proton (protect your privacy for FREE!) 👉 proton.me/soulboom Sundays for Dogs (50% OFF!) 👉 https://sundaysfordogs.com/soulboom50 OneSkin 👉 Get 15% off OneSkin with the code SOULBOOM at https://www.oneskin.co/SOULBOOM #oneskinpod Cozy Earth 👉 Go to cozyearth.com/SOULBOOM for up to 20% off! 📖 Bill & Dave's new book 👉 https://designingyourlife.link/how-to-live-a-meaningful-life/soul ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⏯️ SUBSCRIBE!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👕 MERCH OUT NOW! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📩 SUBSTACK!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW US! IG: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://instagram.com/soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://tiktok.com/@soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONTACT US! Sponsor Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@companionarts.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠business@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send Fan Creations, Questions, Comments: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Produced by: Kartik Chainani Executive Produced by: Ford Bowers, Samah Tokmachi Companion Arts Theme Music by: Marcos Moscat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm not a big reader, but everyone's been talking about this dark fantasy book,
0:10.0	alchemized, so I tried it as an audio book.
0:14.0	Being alive is not the same as living.
0:17.0	I hope someday you'll have a chance to realize the difference. It pulled me in from the very first line.
0:24.6	I was just there.
0:27.6	Life changes when you listen.
0:29.6	Alchemized by Sen Lin Yu, now on Spotify.
0:34.6	They've actually now proven that your brain would rather have a problem, even if it's a painful
0:40.4	problem, then try something new. So it's easier to stay stuck in a rug, in rumination.
0:45.6	Familiar pain is better than change. Design is a process of making the next thing better.
0:50.6	But in life design, I got to decide I want to change something because you can't solve a problem
0:56.0	if you don't want to work on it.
0:57.0	You got to be able to say, okay, I want to make this better or I'm curious about what would happen if I tried something different.
1:04.0	You have to start with except, and then the process starts.
1:10.0	Hey there, it's me, Rain Wilson, and I want to dig into the and then the process starts.
1:15.8	Hey there, it's me, Rain Wilson, and I want to dig into the human experience.
1:19.0	I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution.
1:25.9	Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning, and idiocy.
1:28.6	Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast.
1:40.4	A quick shout out to our sponsor, Proton. Go to proton.m.m.m. to take control of your private and digital life. Enjoy the show. You guys, welcome to Soul Boom. I'm so excited to talk to you.
1:49.0	So you're an odd duo. How did you guys get together? I know that you're a devout Christian and theist and with some
2:00.7	seminary experience? Seminarian? Yes. Well, I have a degree
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