Hi, I'm Dr. Amy Robbins and welcome to life, death, and the space between podcast.

I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and medium, and on this show, we discuss life, death, consciousness, and what it all means.

Today, I have Dr. Tobin Hart back again. Dr. Hart is a father,

partner, author, and spiritual ally. Professionally, he is a professor in a most unusual psychology

department at the University of West Georgia. This department is a radical place where knowledge, wisdom,

and even love are on the menu as we explore the depth of consciousness and society. He is also

the co-founder and chair of the Child Spirit Institute, a non-for-profit educational and research

hub dedicated to understanding and nurturing the spirituality of children and

adults. And today, Dr. Hart is back with us on the show to talk about just this topic,

spirituality and children. So welcome back. Thank you, Amy. So we're going to jump into this concept of children and spirituality.

And you've had a long interest in this, starting with your own child.

So can you talk about what sort of opened you up to children and spirituality?

I always liked both of those things, but I never put them together until one night when my then

about six-year-old was going to bed, and I was tucking her in, and she, a party girl who

always wanted to stay up a little bit later, asked me a question about

the book that was under my arm.

It was a developmental psychology textbook with a picture of a child on it.

And she said, Dad, what are you reading a kid's book for?

And I said, it's not a kid's book, it's book about children, things like what they like to do, how they think, this kind of thing.

And without missing a bee, lying in her bed at bedtime, she said, you mean like seeing angels?

And of course, this was the last thing that this or any developmental psychology textbook was about.

But I said, sure, it could be about things like that.

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