Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Be There in Five podcast. I'm Kate Kennedy, your host.

We're just going to dive right into the episode with our guest. I do minimal edits here.

I have been gone the past couple of weeks.

And I don't know if I never know if people like are on Instagram or Patreon or whatever.

And I don't want to like talk about it. I'm going to weirdly breeze past it because I don't want to get

upset. And I'm here to uplift today like mom talk alleges they do. But I, I actually was

pregnant unbeknownst to the audience. But unfortunately, we lost

the baby at around 10 and a half weeks. It was a girl. I'm not okay. If you want to hear we talk

about it for 90 minutes, go to Patreon because in trying times, we monetize our pain. Don't we

Nora McInerney? Welcome to the V-R-ather of Five podcast. Baby, I just perked right up.

Okay.

Did someone say, did someone say make their pain into their work and their job?

Because I think that's, yeah, I feel like that's the only thing that you're allowed to do.

You can't keep it yourself.

Make your pain a side hustle is really the vibe.

Do you trigger warning people when your life is the trigger?

Like that's, I sometimes I say when people are like, what is your, what are your books about?

I'm like, well, how bad of a night do you want to have?

Yeah.

Right.

You know, how'd you, how'd you, how'd you two meet am i go through a friend like

oh what oh like what who's the friend i'm like we're just could you shut could you shut up could you

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