The Secret History of Women at the CIA

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4 • 921 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2023

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Skeptic event this December! Tickets available now: https://shop.skeptic.com/event

Shermer and Mundy discuss: • CIA research methods • a brief history of the CIA • the purpose of intelligence agencies • Misogyny and sexism in the early decades • the skills needed to be a spy • what women notice that men don’t in the spy business • Lisa Manfull Harper feminine approach to espionage, and finding Osama Bin Laden • how women worked around the restrictions on women advancing in the CIA • Lisa Manfull Harper and the CIA in the 1950s and finding Osama bin Laden in the 2000s • Heidi August and Gaddafi • Shirley Sulick and KGB • Molly Chambers and 9/11.

Liza Mundy is an award-winning journalist and the New York Times bestselling author of four books, including Code Girls. A former staff writer for the Washington Post, Mundy writes for The Atlantic, Politico, and Smithsonian, among other publications. Her new book is The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA.

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show I want to tell you about our upcoming event, December 1st, 2nd and 3rd, right here in
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0:43.9	Pagosians going to do his street epistemology with us. On Sunday I have
0:47.7	Jared Diamond coming up from LA. We're going to record a live
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