Hey, this is Trey. Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast. This is Trey. Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast. This is a treat. Every time it happens, every time it happens. I think it's the last time it's going to happen just because he's busy and he's famous. And I've said this before. He is my favorite living author. And I say that as a fledgling

author myself, but primarily as a reader. His name is Stephen Presville. Whenever I ask someone,

what book has changed your life, I get different answers, but the reason I ask them

is because of one of his older books, The Gates of Fire, which, as you all know, sits on my

bedside table, only kept company by the Bible.

Those were the two books on my bedside table, one that Mr. Presbyle signed for me,

and the Bible, which today neither God nor Jesus has signed for me.

So I got the one signed by Mr. Pres Pressfield, but not another one sign.

Stephen, you want me to call you, Stephen.

That's hard for me to do, but I'm going to do it.

Please do it.

Please do it.

Yeah.

Or I'll have to call you Mr. Gowdy.

No, no, no.

I hadn't earned that yet. I got to tell you, I am probably a quarter of the way through a man of arms.

And it is, you know, I've been, I've been writing a follow-up book.

And then when I get through writing and then read yours, I feel inadequate.

On the one hand, on the other hand, it is so much fun to read a good writer.

Tell me what, because you went from historical nonfiction, and you've also written pure nonfiction,

and you've written what some people would call self-help I guess I don't

know if that's the right title and now we're back at historical fiction what was the

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