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A Bit of Optimism

The Secret Art of Micromanagement with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky

A Bit of Optimism

The Optimism Company from Simon Sinek

Self-improvement, Careers, Business, Education

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

People aren’t born great leaders. They learn to become great leaders. For Brian Chesky, the learning never stops. As the co-founder of Airbnb, he had to transition from an impassioned entrepreneur with a brilliant idea into a CEO responsible for thousands of employees. To make the hard decisions necessary for Airbnb to survive the COVID pandemic, a cataclysmic event for the travel industry, Brian had to lean into the skills and thinking he’d learned and practiced for over a decade of leadership. I’ve watched Brian grow as a leader for years, and so I was delighted to sit down with him for a conversation on what people get wrong about great leadership. He shares with me the difference between micromanagement and “eyes on” leadership, why leaders should fight the instinct to be liked, and why an existential crisis is the best thing to put a company’s values to the test. This…is A Bit of Optimism. For more on Brian and his work, check out: airbnb.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

Has being a weightlift

0:00.7

you made you a better executive?

0:02.6

Absolutely.

0:03.5

Bodybuilding taught me that you build your life one repetition at a time,

0:07.4

that it's all about consistency,

0:09.3

that there's not one moment that you get into shape.

0:16.6

Leadership isn't something innate.

0:19.0

It's something we have to learn and practice.

0:22.6

I got to meet Brian Chesky, the CEO and one of the founders of Airbnb,

0:26.6

a whole bunch of years ago.

0:28.6

And unlike other leaders I've met, I had the chance to watch him grow as a leader.

0:33.6

What started as air mattresses in their living room, literally an air bed and breakfast,

0:38.3

to a company now worth $80 billion, Brian has navigated countless challenges, all with vision

0:45.3

and resilience.

0:46.3

Brian doesn't believe that Airbnb has reached its peak, and he doesn't think he's hit

0:51.3

his full potential as a leader either.

0:57.7

It's a powerful reminder that leadership is a continuous journey and not a final destination.

1:00.5

This is a bit of optimism.

1:04.2

I have seen who you've become in the world of leadership,

1:08.8

and I love listening to people,

1:12.1

tell me that they got information, direction,

1:15.7

inspiration from you.

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